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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.09.22 12:54:00 -
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The Apostle wrote:Quote:-Able to tank nullsec belt rats
- Faster align time, smaller sig radius (counterbalanced most likely with smaller cargo space)
- Larger drone bay
- Doesn't mine as fast as a hulk (to keep them from replacing the more highsec friendly Hulk.) Hulks can. Align to. No point. No, needs to be better than the Hulks. 0.0 is dangerous to mine. Want it done fast so you can gtfo. All reasonable ideas but the ship is not the problem.
Wow. 0.0 is dangerous? We mine in wormholes in covetors because the danger provides a negative cost/benefit for a hulk. Dangerous. You have local. You have fixed gates with little chance of a surprise if you're not afk. You don't need better mining ships because of "danger". You need miners with balls.
Hell, you don't even need to keep watching DScan thanks to the crutch called local.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
47
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Posted - 2011.09.22 13:05:00 -
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[quote=Messoroz]CCP Greyscale I believe in the previous forums stated 26% of ABC comes from wspace. HOWEVER 75% of all coveters in game are lost in wspace and 25% of hulks as well or something to this tune. These stats combined are ridiculously better than anything null has :P
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Please. You realize that more covetors are lost in wormholes because the increased danger of mining in there pushes pilots with a clue into flying covetors to minimize the cost of the expected losses, right? Most people mine with covetors so they can afford the expected losses. Not only that, you can't get a hulk into a C1 and out again. Besides, with nothing but the rare grav spawn to mine, it's a few days a month with long dry spells without any rocks at all. You can't blame wormholes for any ABC problems when that grav site only gave us 15K and it never replenishes.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.09.22 14:42:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Ingvar Angst wrote:Messoroz wrote:CCP Greyscale I believe in the previous forums stated 26% of ABC comes from wspace. HOWEVER 75% of all coveters in game are lost in wspace and 25% of hulks as well or something to this tune. These stats combined are ridiculously better than anything null has :P
Please. You realize that more covetors are lost in wormholes because the increased danger of mining in there pushes pilots with a clue into flying covetors to minimize the cost of the expected losses, right? Most people mine with covetors so they can afford the expected losses. Not only that, you can't get a hulk into a C1 and out again. Besides, with nothing but the rare grav spawn to mine, it's a few days a month with long dry spells without any rocks at all. You can't blame wormholes for any ABC problems when that grav site only gave us 15K and it never replenishes. Reread what I said, then realize I am going to **** up the talun channel later now to make fun of your illiteracy.
No doubts you will. 
However, you worded it such that it appears you're stating things are better in wormholes because people are only losing covetors, not hulks. If 74% of ABC is being mined in null, and they're only showing 25% of covetor kills and an unknown percentage of hulk kills (low and high sec numbers missing from the kills) then that implies null being the safer place to mine? They appear to be mining at least 3x the amount as wormholes, and that seems a bit low.
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